What is Peak Day?

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    sewolanski

    So would I be correct in saying, when trying to avoid conception you should start using protection when you notice watery or creamy texture? Or to be extra safe when it turns to a paste? In a bit confused as to when I need to use protection...

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    Courtney

    Hey there!

    Rule #2 of the 4 rules of using FAM as birth control states that prior to ovulation, you are only considered infertile on days when you observe NO cervical fluid. So you should use protection on any day that you observe CF, even if it's pasty. 

    After you confirm ovulation and wait at least three days after your temperature shift, and four days after your peak day, you are considered infertile for the rest of your cycle - so if you observe any dry/sticky cervical fluid then, you're OK to have sex without protection.

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    denisehoefig

    What if the CF doesn't match my ovulation day as per ovulation test? I had a two day dip in temperature on the day I ovulated as per test and have now tested negative each day. Now three days later CF is turning watery. On the apparent ovulation day CF was barely there ...? Advise?

    Also now that I am four days post ovulation does that mean I'm 'safe' ?

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    Courtney

    Hi there,

    Without more information, it's hard to say when you ovulated. Remember that you're not looking for a temperature dip but rather a temperature RISE that's sustained for at least 3 days to confirm ovulation. Here's an article with more information about the temperature shift: https://kindara.zendesk.com/entries/23880036-Temperature-Shift-FAQs

    Ovulation tests can be useful as additional confirmation of the fertile window, but they can also be misleading and shouldn't be relied upon alone as a means of determining the fertile window. For more info on OPKs, check out this article from our blog: http://blog.kindara.com/post/79397429306/are-ovulation-tests-accurate

    Finally, because it's uncertain if or when you ovulated, I can't say whether you're safe for unprotected sex or not. Sorry about that :/ To be absolutely certain that you're infertile for the rest of your cycle, you'll want to confirm both a peak day AND a temperature shift, and wait until the evening of the 4th day after your peak day, and the evening of the 3rd day after your temperature shift, before having unprotected sex. 

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    denisehoefig

    Hi I had the positive ovulation test which I know indicates a rise in the hormones basically stating ovulation is about to occur I had a dip in temperature and a sustained temperature thereafter but the description of peak day and fertile CF doesn't actually match until 5 days after +OPT . That's what confuses me. So am I supposed to rely most on CF and temperature even if they don't necessarily match and 'ignore' the OPT? Thanks a lot

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    Courtney

    Hey there,

    Without looking at your charts, it's hard to say what's going on here. A lot of women won't see a dip in their temperatures right before they ovulate, so that's not the thing to look out for - the temperature shift is when your temperature rises at least .2 degrees F/.11 degrees C above the temp of the previous day, and at least .1 degrees F/.05 degrees C above all of the temps from the previous 6 days. 

    Because ovulation tests can be misleading  (it is possible to get a false positive or false negative result), we recommend that you use temperature and cervical fluid tracking to determine when you're fertile. Ovulation tests can be used as an additional confirmation of the fertile window, but shouldn't be relied upon alone. For more info, check out this article from our blog: http://blog.kindara.com/post/79397429306/are-ovulation-tests-accurate

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    ally99a

    Hi. I am new to this so I may be tracking wrong. But just curious, is it possible to have egg white cervical fluid again (twice between periods) and would that mean I was ovulating and could get pregnant again?

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    Courtney

    Hi there,

    It is possible to notice multiple patches of eggwhite cervical fluid during a cycle; however, it's not possible to ovulate more than once during a cycle. Your cervical fluid can tell you when ovulation may be approaching, but it doesn't confirm that ovulation actually occurred - so it's possible to notice eggwhite cervical fluid and not ovulate (this could mean your body is gearing up to ovulate, but hasn't yet).

    Your basal temperatures, on the other hand, DO confirm ovulation. A temperature shift that's sustained for at least three days means you ovulated. For more info on the temperature shift, please read this article from our Knowledge Base:  https://kindara.zendesk.com/entries/23880036-Temperature-Shift-FAQs

     

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    mili.doshisubscriptions

    Hi. I'm pretty new to TTC, and had a question about intercourse timing and EWCM. Is it still possible to become pregnant if you have intercourse 1-2 days before the peak EWCM day? For example, I had inter ourselves 2 days ago (and the 2 days before that), not yesterday, but today had a release of a lot of EWCM. Would that mean that the EWCM was not there the last few days to support the sperm? My apologies for the graphic question - just wondering if the intercourse will allow me to conceive at all given that it was before so much EWCM.

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    Courtney

    Hi there,

    Yes, it's definitely possible to get pregnant from having sex in the days leading up to the peak day! If there's any cervical fluid in the vagina (eggwhite or not), sperm can live in the vagina for up to 5 days. So yes, pregnancy is definitely still possible :) 

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    sylvia_333

    Hi, if I have observed any creamy cervix fluid, and normally i have super long cycle of 40 days, so i guess it is very sure i am not going to be pregnant on first 15 days of my cycle because my ovulation day is about 24th day of my cycle. is that being correct? thanks 

     

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    Courtney

    Hey Sylvia! Actually, it's not certain that you won't get pregnant from having unprotected sex during the first part of your cycle, even if your cycles are normally 40 days or longer. Even if you normally ovulate around day 24, you may not ovulate on the same day every cycle - and you never know when you're going to ovulate earlier than normal until it happens. If you want to be absolutely certain you won't get pregnant, you need to follow the 4 rules of using the Fertility Awareness Method to avoid pregnancy. That means if you haven't confirmed ovulation yet with a sustained temperature shift and peak day, you need to count ANY day that you have cervical fluid as a potentially fertile day, and abstain or use protection. 

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    verity.ramsden

    Hi,

    I'm on my first cycle after coming off the pill, so know that's cycle is likely to be a bit messed up, however in the past two days I have seen an enormous temperature shift, so if this is sustained tomorrow I can be reasonably confident that ovulation has occurred.

    BUT my cf has been doing some odd things-had sticky then creamy, then three or four dry days before going back to creamy for another few days. Today I saw my first egg white-two days after the temp jump.

    So, I have two questions:

    1) does te dry day rule apply on dry days which occur after days when you've had cf? All the info I've read only talks about dry days post menatruation but before the arrival of cf-it says nothing about days later in the cycle.

    2) is it common for peak day to occur after a temp shift? If so, how does this affect the temp shift +3 rule and the peak+4 rule?

    Thanks so much for this amazing app and all it's great guidance! :-)

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    Courtney

    Hey Verity! Thanks for your questions. Once you've had ANY cervical fluid, you need to consider yourself fertile until after you've confirmed ovulation. Fertile cervical fluid might be just around the corner. And, it is possible for the peak day to occur after the temperature shift. On the evening of the 3rd day after the temperature shift, the eggs are almost certainly dead and gone. However if you want to be EXTRA careful (and particularly if you're new to charting), wait until you've met both the Temp+3 Rule and the Peak+4 Rule. 

    Hope this helps :)

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    telatela741

    hi there - i'm confused - starting charting with your app and i'm struggling here - i listed peak day as friday - i had the most CM then and also got a +opk. i know for certain i ovulated on saturday - i felt it. on my chart there is a 'P' on friday - since i checked the 'peak' box. that said - each proceeding day is an ascending number. what do those numbers denote? DPO? does the day of ovulation count as 1 dpo - or is it the following day? 

     

    thanks much!

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    mariagserena

    How do i know if i got the correct peak day? When should i expect my period to start after the peak day? Thank you !

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    chelsea-gill

    What if it doesn't appear to have any slippery CM? But there was a temp change that's been consistently higher for three days?

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    Lauren

    Hi Maria, your period will most likely arrive between 10-16 days after your Peak Day, but this varies from woman to woman and even cycle to cycle, so it's hard to say for sure!

    Hi Chelsea, a woman can ovulate even if she hasn't seen any slippery or eggwhite-quality cervical fluid.  If you've had a temperature shift that's been sustained for three days or more, it's likely that you've ovulated even if you never saw any eggwhite fluid.  Hope that helps :)

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    ccardwell25

    Can your peak day be after your temp rise? I am on day 2 of my temperature being up but still having EW CF?

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    Sam

    Hi Ccardwell25,  Thanks for writing.  Though we generally see the temp rise after your peak day, everyone is different, and you might have the most fertile CF on or right after your temp shift day.  Hope this helps!

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    maddybizzle

    Is it possible to have watery/eggwhite CF post ovulation? I am a flight attendant so my temperatures could have been off with waking up at different times of day and travel etc. Thank you!!

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    maddybizzle

    Hi there!

    Is it possible to have watery/eggwhite CF post ovulation? I am a flight attendant so my temperatures could have been off with waking up at different times of day and travel etc. Thank you!!

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    valeriecollins3

    What if my cervical fluid is fertile then starts to dry up and becomes fertile again in the same cycle?

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    je062787

    I need some help finding my peak day, can you help? On January 10 (CD 11), I had a lot of stretchy egg white mucus. I dried up the next day, but on January 12 (CD 13), I had stretchy egg white mucus, but it wasn't as much as the day before. How can I determine which day it was? Also, my mucus never seems to dry up, I always have some no matter where I'm at in my cycle.

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    Lauren

    Hi Maddybizzle, thanks for your question! Some women have a smaller surge of estrogen about a week after ovulation that can cause one day or two of eggwhite cervical fluid during the luteal phase.  This fluid is not considered fertile as long as you've confirmed that ovulation has already passed by observing a sustained temperature shift.  I hope this helps!

     

    Hi Valerie, it's very common for cervical fluid patterns to fluctuate, especially if you've been stressed that cycle (which can delay ovulation).  If you're trying to get pregnant, continue to have sex every time you see eggwhite quality fluid to maximize your chance of pregnancy.  If you're trying to avoid pregnancy, abstain from unprotected sex until you can be sure that ovulation has passed by observing a sustained temperature shift. I hope this helps!

     

    Hi je, your Peak Day is always the LAST day of eggwhite/watery cervical fluid you have, so in this case your peak day would be CD13.  It's also totally normal to have some cervical fluid throughout your whole cycle - some women never have any dry days at all!  As long as you've confirmed that ovulation has passed by observing a sustained temperature shift, cervical fluid after ovulation is not considered fertile.  I hope this helps!

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    agoose427

    Are the little stars on the calendar that fertile times always set after a certain amount of days from the start of your cycle?

    I know I don't put enough info in the app, but my cervical fluid never seems to match when the stars indicate I should be fertile. It seems a week early.

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    gracedworakowski

    I have had 5 days of elevated temperatures and my cm has been dry for longer. All of a sudden today I experienced clearly wet cm. is it safe to go unprotected still?

    Thanks,

    Gracr

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    carebear835

    Hi, in my chart, I see a dip in temperature and an increase in egg white fluid. All this seems consistent with the information above. Where I get confused with peak day is that my temperature is rising but I'm still seeing CF. 2 days ago is my lowest temperature and highest CF content. Still today I have a small amount of egg white fluid. The definition above is slightly contrary to what I'm seeing in my cycle. Should my peak day therefore be today (if we assume no CF tomorrow) or 2 days ago? Thanks!

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