Healthy Cycle Without Conception

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    saranode78

    This chart is the same thing as a regular chart, like an every kind of women's chart, correct?

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    Courtney

    Hey saranode78, this chart is an example of what a chart might look like for ONE woman. Keep in mind that every woman is different - so your chart may not look exactly like this one! The most important things that indicate a healthy cycle are: a progression of cervical fluid from dry->wet->back to dry around the fertile window, a sustained temperature shift that occurs after ovulation, and a luteal phase that is at least 12 days long. 

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    shellylynn99

    When do the numbers show up for DPO?

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    Courtney

    Hi shellylynn99, the numbers show up after you mark a temperature shift in the app. So in the chart pictured above, the woman marked a temperature shift on Dec. 15, or day 18 or her cycle. The app will then count the days until your next cycle starts.

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    nicoleash75

    I'm not sure I understand sticky cervical fluid. I never notice anything sticky. Is there another word that also describes this stage of fluid?

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    Courtney

    Hi Nicole,

    Some women do not observe sticky cervical fluid. But, other words to describe it include crumbly, dry, pasty, or tacky. For a detailed description of all the types of CF, please read this article: https://kindara.zendesk.com/entries/23643313-The-Many-Faces-of-Cervical-Fluid

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    candj112111

    How do you know that the luetal phase is over based from this chart?

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    Courtney

    Hey there,

    The luteal phase ends when you get your period. So the luteal phase here lasts from cycle day 18 to cycle day 30 (the end of the chart). 

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    alexandralucy

    Hi how do you know which is the 'peak' day? Will the chart work it out? I had one day which I thought was peak when cf was watery- but then the next day temperature was still low (no cf) and it wasn't until the day after that my temp went up.

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    Courtney

    Hi there, 

    The peak day is the last day of fertile (i.e. wet) cervical fluid before it dries up again. The app will not figure it out for you - you need to determine which day was your peak day based on your charts. You can only determine which day was your peak day a few days in retrospect, since you need to confirm that your cervical fluid dried up again. Only your cevical fluid (not your temperatures) indicate when your peak day was.

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    sodivine3

    So why didn't this woman get pregnant according to the chart?

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    Courtney

    Hey there, 

    There are a number of potential reasons why this woman didn't conceive this cycle. Even healthy couples who time sex during the fertile window have about a 25% chance of conceiving each cycle - so in cases like these it's best to just keep trying (and perhaps have the male partner tested, to make sure his sperm count and quality is good). If the couple is healthy, they will likely conceive within the first year or so of trying. 

    If a couple has been trying for longer than a year and still has not gotten pregnant (and timing sex correctly), the man's sperm count/quality is fine, and the woman has seemingly healthy cycles, there are a number of reasons why fertilization or implantation might not occur:

    Sometimes, the membrane surrounding the egg may be too hard for sperm to break through and fertilize the egg. However, this is rare. A more common scenario is that the membrane may not have softened enough to be able to implant in the uterus. As women get older or are exposed to toxins, their eggs tend to harden - which is why it can be difficult for older women to get pregnant.

    Sometimes, the egg just doesn't find a good place to implant in the uterus. Low estrogen in the beginning of a cycle can prevent the endometrium from building up enough to support a fertilized egg, and growths and scar tissue can prevent the egg from having a good place to attach. 

    Thyroid problems or nutritional deficiencies can also prevent the endometrium from building up enough for the egg to be able to implant.

    Infection or illness can damage the embryo and prevent it from implanting.

    If a woman's cycles seem healthy, she's been having sex during the fertile window, and has been trying for at least a year, yet she hasn't conceived, it may be a good idea for her and her partner to see a fertility specialist to rule out any of the above explanations.

    Hope this helps!

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    oteyk

    On my chart the temps were rising and then today they dropped. Does this mean that AF is coming? Or could my temps jump up again?

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    Courtney

    Hey there, if your temps continue to drop in the next few days, it likely means your period is approaching. If your temperature dropped for one day and then went back up, the drop was probably due to the second, smaller surge of estrogen that occurs midway through the luteal phase. 

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    teammunier

    How do you know when to start a new chart? On this sample, it looks like the first day of low temps would start a new chart. I'm feeling confused because this month, for example, at day 9po my temp dropped below the cover line and I have spotting. Should I wait until AF is fully here, or should I start a new chart today? If I do need to start today, I'm wondering if 9 days is too short of a leuteal phase. Thank you!!

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    Lauren

    Hi teammunier, you should start a new chart on the first day of any red-colored bleeding you observe.  So wait until AF fully arrives before marking the start of a new chart :)

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    tbird0606

    What does the "p" and the numbers after it mean?

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    Lauren

    Hi Tbird, 

    Thanks for contacting Kindara :) The P on the chart represents your Peak Day.  Your Peak Day is the last day that you experience eggwhite cervical fluid, watery cervical fluid, or a lubricative vaginal sensation. Usually, ovulation occurs on the peak day or the day after. As you may have noticed, you can only determine your peak day after it's already over by noting that your cervical fluid disappears or changes into sticky or creamy.

    You can edit the data of a previous day by going to the data screen and swiping to the left until you reach the day you want to edit, or by tapping and holding a day in the chart screen until a popup with all your day's data comes up. You can tap the Edit button on this popup, and you'll be taken to the data screen for that day, where you can edit anything you like, including setting that day as your Peak Day.

    If you're trying to get pregnant, timing intercourse as close to the Peak Day as possible maximizes the chance of conceiving.

    On your chart, the P represents the day you've marked as your Peak Day, and the 1, 2, 3, 4 correspond to the Peak +4 rule of the Fertility Awareness Method (FAM). For women using FAM as birth control, the infertile phase begins on the evening of the fourth day after the Peak Day (as long as the woman has also experienced at least three high temperatures, confirming ovulation has passed.) You may also notice that if you enter any cervical fluid after the fourth day past the Peak, it will be grayed out rather than pink, signifying that it is infertile. If you want more information about the fertility awareness method, here's a link :)

    https://kindara.zendesk.com/entries/22043400-The-4-Rules-of-Charting-for-Birth-Control

    I hope this helps! Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions :)

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    khoury.ingie

    Is it normal not to have egg white type cervical mucous? Just creamy and then watery?

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    Lauren

    Hi there, thanks for contacting us!  It's totally normal not to see egg-white quality cervical fluid.  Every woman's cervical fluid pattern is a little bit different and it's possible that you might simply have watery cervical fluid instead of eggwhite.  For the purposes of determining your peak day, watery cervical fluid should still be considered as fertile as eggwhite cervical fluid.  I hope that helps!

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    luciaamoes

    Hi, I suffered from ovarian cysts for three years and was operated in 27 th June 2013 , last year it grew another , this time on my right hand side with a three months treatment patch and a few medication this year , the following month this was April , I tried for an IVF because da doc said one of my Fallopian tubes wasn't at a normal stage . Unfortunately it failed, the doc said that my embryos didn't support my husbands sperm , it was too week second information so now we trying the normal root and I'm not sure how the chart will work , my period is not regular ???and if the doc is right about my embryos how do I improve for healthy and strong ones ??

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    mommyandquaid

    What do the letter P and numbers following mean?

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    trishayllon

    Why didnt she get pregnant? I feel like she did everything "right"?

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    Lauren

    Hi Lucia, thanks so much for contacting us.  I'm afraid I can't give you any information about your specific condition - the best person to ask would be your doctor.  However, all women can increase their chances of conception by charting their fertility.  Charting your fertility is a great way to learn about your body, and to see when you are fertile, so you will have the best chance of conceiving. Have you started charting yet?

    If you are new to fertility charting I suggest reading this article on our site: http://blog.kindara.com/blog/trying-to-get-pregnant-you-need-to-know-this

    Let me know if you have any questions, I'm happy to help.

     

    Hi mommyandquaid,

    Thanks for contacting Kindara :) The 'P' on your chart indicates your Peak Day.  Your Peak Day is the last day that you experience eggwhite cervical fluid, watery cervical fluid, or a lubricative vaginal sensation. Usually, ovulation occurs on the peak day or the day after. As you may have noticed, you can only determine your peak day after it's already over by noting that your cervical fluid disappears or changes into sticky or creamy.

    You can edit the data of a previous day by going to the data screen and swiping to the left until you reach the day you want to edit, or by tapping and holding a day in the chart screen until a popup with all your day's data comes up. You can tap the Edit button on this popup, and you'll be taken to the data screen for that day, where you can edit anything you like, including setting that day as your Peak Day.

    If you're trying to get pregnant, timing intercourse as close to the Peak Day as possible maximizes the chance of conceiving.

    On your chart, the P represents the day you've marked as your Peak Day, and the 1, 2, 3, 4 correspond to the Peak +4 rule of the Fertility Awareness Method (FAM). For women using FAM as birth control, the infertile phase begins on the evening of the fourth day after the Peak Day (as long as the woman has also experienced at least three high temperatures, confirming ovulation has passed.) You may also notice that if you enter any cervical fluid after the fourth day past the Peak, it will be grayed out rather than pink, signifying that it is infertile. If you want more information about the fertility awareness method, here's a link :)

    https://kindara.zendesk.com/entries/22043400-The-4-Rules-of-Charting-for-Birth-Control

    I hope this helps! Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions :)

     

    Hi trishayllon, thanks for your question!  Getting pregnant is a bit of a game of chance - it's still quite possible to not get pregnant even if a woman does everything "right."  There's still a very good chance she'll get pregnant next cycle. I hope this helps :)

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    pretty_in_pink64

    What does the P and the numbers stand for?

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    kerribecca

    You said "But with a thirteen day luteal phase it is apparent that this woman did not get pregnant this cycle." Is this because there is significance at the 13 day mark? Or simply because AF arrived the next day?

    Is there a day during the luteal phase that you can be pretty sure you're not pregnant (i.e. 10 Dpo or 15 Dpo)? I assume that a woman with a longer than normal cycle at some point in the luteal phase (based on the assumption she has ovulated and has the temperature shift to reflect it) knows that she is likely not pregnant though still waiting for the beginning of her next cycle?

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    jtid1978

    I don't want to sound stupid, so when you have the egg white discharge, that's when you have sex? Or is that too late. And now about 5 days before my period, I have a sticky white discharge. What does that mean?

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    k.felmingham

    How do you measure your CF if you're not getting discharge in your pants?

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