About the period and fertility prediction

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    nethibado

    For some reason, the fertility predictor says I would be most fertile during days 3-7 of my cycle, all of which I will be menstruating. Other fertility predictors I've used (and lookin at the chart gallery) suggest that my most fertile time should be about a week later in my cycle. I'm a new user, but I've entered BBT info for my entire last cycle and cycle start dates for several cycles prior. Am I doing something wrong?

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    Courtney

    Hi nethibado, Hm, sorry about this! It does seem like something is off. Can you please email me at feedback@kindara.com and let me know the email address you used to create your Kindara account so I can look into this?

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    house.ashley

    My fertility starts on the last day of my cycle. And I know I'm not suppose to be ovulating so soon. Can you please help me with this problem

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    Courtney

    Hi there,

    Hm, I'm afraid I'm not sure what you're asking. Do you mean that your fertility prediction starts on the last day of your cycle? If you think the app is not working as it should, please email us at feedback@kindara.com and we'll get back to you right away.

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    Lauren

    Hi Sara!  You may notice small red dots at the bottom of the cervical fluid bars on your or other users' charts. These represent Spotting, and may be turned on by tapping the checkbox on the row that says Spotting in the menstruation section of the data screen. Spotting is when a woman experiences very light bleeding which is usually pink or brown, and isn't heavy enough to need a menstrual pad, tampon, or menstrual cup. Some women experience spotting during ovulation, just before their period, just after their period, or because of certain medical conditions.

     

    Hope that helps!

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    grainnehiley

    What do the lines mean ? You talk about what the stars mean above but I have lines some light pink some dark pink.

    Trying to find what these mean but can't see anywhere hoping you can help ? Thanks

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    Lauren

    Hi Grainnehiley, I'm so sorry about the confusion!  Are you perhaps referring to the pink shaded bars on the chart?

    The vertical bars on the chart refer to the quantity and qualities of cervical fluid that you recorded that day.  The darker the shade of pink, the greater the water content of the cervical fluid, and hence greater fertility. Then as you go through your fertile window in each cycle, the pink bars will get darker, and dip down toward the bottom of the chart. After ovulation they will become lighter pink, and get taller. The cervical fluid bars and the temperature line will rise at around the same time allowing you to visually confirm ovulation using both primary fertility signs.

    Here is the blog post on how to read your Kindara chart. http://kindara.com/blog/how-to-read-a-kindara-chart/

    Let me know if you'd like more of an explanation. I'm happy to help.

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    goth.punk

    My period started the 7th of March on the calendar there's a pink bar for last period, why is there a pink dot on the 21st of March for next period shouldn't it be next month

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    Lauren

    Hi Goth Punk, did you by any chance mark a day in your current cycle as your Temperature Shift?  Kindara's prediction feature will add your average luteal phase length (the period after ovulation) to the day that you marked your temperature shift in the app.  So if you happened to ovulate very early, or if you accidentally marked a temperature shift earlier than you meant to, this can throw off the prediction.  If you still have any specific questions about this please write in to feedback@kindara.com and I can take a look at your chart to help figure out what's going on :)

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    rianne_fielding

    I don't know if I'm being dumb here but the app says that it can help avoid pregnancy, yet it turns off the fertile days predictor. What is it the app actually helps with then to avoid pregnancy? Surely it is specifically that feature that helps you use the natural method?

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    vlisa0277

    My fertility tracker won't turn on. Can anyone help? It was working on my old phone, but since I got my new phone yesterday, now it's not working.

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    Lauren

    Hi Rianne, I'm afraid that right now, the fertility prediction feature isn't designed for avoiding pregnancy.  Our basic fertility prediction feature is for users with the goal set to Get Pregnant - however because the prediction is based on an average of past cycle data and not the data from the current day, it's not always 100% accurate at determining the fertile window. For that reason, we don't want users to rely on the prediction feature to avoid pregnancy.

    While it would be really useful to have a feature that would just tell you when you're fertile, the thing is that most prediction features are not completely accurate, as they don't take into account ALL of the different factors that can indicate if a woman is fertile or not. Also, every woman is different, so ultimately only you can be the judge of what's going on with your body. After you've been using the Fertility Awareness Method for a while, your ability to gauge when you are fertile or not will be MUCH better than any algorithm's :)

    So, particularly if you don't want to get pregnant, it's best to confirm your fertile days with the daily observation of the primary fertility signs. You can confirm when you're fertile by tracking your temperatures and cervical fluid each day, and applying the 4 rules of using the Fertility Awareness Method as birth control (https://kindara.zendesk.com/entries/22043400-The-4-rules-of-using-the-Fertility-Awareness-Method-as-birth-control-explained).

    If you need more info on how to check your primary fertility signs and what they mean, check out our knowledge base: https://kindara.zendesk.com/home. There's tons of useful info in there.

    If there's anything else I can help you with, please don't hesitate to let me know! Thanks again for writing us :)

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    Lauren

    Hi Lisa, I'm so sorry the fertility prediction feature isn't working!  Could you let me know what device you're using?  If you could write back to feedback@kindara.com I'll get back to you as soon as possible.  Thanks!

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    shainagroszek

    I actually have Ben searching as well on my calendar not my shirt there's a red line marked under my menstration days but from the day I began tracking there are light pink lines or bars under each day again my calendar not the chart itself

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    aya.mizuta

    What are the lines on the calendar page under the number. It says it represents the days I had period but on other days I still have those bars with different colours...

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    Lauren

    Hi Shaina and Aya, the bars on the Calendar screen represent the menstruation and cervical fluid you recorded for that day.  Light pink bars represent less fertile fluid (such as sticky) and darker pink bars represent more fertile fluid (eggwhite and watery).  You can find a key for what the colors mean on the left side of the Chart screen.  Let me know if you have any questions about this!

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    Dana Walko

    Hi,

    What does the "P", 1, 2,3 mean on my chart. Is this when I can possibly become pregnant? My temp dropped on CD13 does this mean I am about to ovulate or I have already ovulated?

    Thank you,

    Dana

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    Lauren

    Hi Dana,

    Thanks for contacting Kindara :) The 'P' on your chart represents your Peak Day.  Your Peak Day is the last day that you experience eggwhite cervical fluid, watery cervical fluid, or a lubricative vaginal sensation. Usually, ovulation occurs on the peak day or the day after. As you may have noticed, you can only determine your peak day after it's already over by noting that your cervical fluid disappears or changes into sticky or creamy.

    You can edit the data of a previous day by going to the data screen and swiping to the left until you reach the day you want to edit, or by tapping and holding a day in the chart screen until a popup with all your day's data comes up. You can tap the Edit button on this popup, and you'll be taken to the data screen for that day, where you can edit anything you like, including setting that day as your Peak Day.

    If you're trying to get pregnant, timing intercourse as close to the Peak Day as possible maximizes the chance of conceiving.

    On your chart, the P represents the day you've marked as your Peak Day, and the 1, 2, 3, 4 correspond to the Peak +4 rule of the Fertility Awareness Method (FAM). For women using FAM as birth control, the infertile phase begins on the evening of the fourth day after the Peak Day (as long as the woman has also experienced at least three high temperatures, confirming ovulation has passed.) You may also notice that if you enter any cervical fluid after the fourth day past the Peak, it will be grayed out rather than pink, signifying that it is infertile. If you want more information about the fertility awareness method, here's a link :)

    https://kindara.zendesk.com/entries/22043400-The-4-Rules-of-Charting-for-Birth-Control

    As for your temperature drop, this may not actually mean anything at all - some women experience a temperature drop right before ovulation but others don't.  I'd pay more attention to your cervical fluid - when your cervical fluid becomes stretchy and slippery, like raw eggwhites, that's when you should time intercourse to maximize your chance of conceiving.

    I hope this helps! Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions :)

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    Dana Walko

    Where did all my comments go on my chart! I went to sign on and they are completely gone. Your website and app have been nothing but problems the past week. What is going on?

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    Sam

    Hi Dana,

    Thank you for writing in, I'm very sorry for the issue that you were experiencing.  This was a bug that appeared today but it should be working now.  Please let us know if any other issues arise.

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    kelseyschalkle

    Per Rianne's concern, I am using FAM for pregnancy avoidance. This app is new to me- I started with charting then used another app before this but had heard great reviews. Seeing CF with temps is great, but it feels problematic that you cannot at least show what the "rules" of FAM would look like against a current cycle. Does that make sense? No "predicting", just noting that day 3 of your period is "safe" according to the standard rules. Any thoughts on if this may be updated?

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    Sam

    Hi Kelsey,

    We do have a basic fertility prediction feature for users with the goal set to Get Pregnant - however because the prediction is based on an average of past cycle data and not the data from the current day, it's not always 100% accurate at determining the fertile window. For that reason, we don't want users to rely on the prediction feature to avoid pregnancy.

    While it would be really useful to have a feature that would just tell you when you're fertile, the thing is that most prediction features are not completely accurate, as they don't take into account ALL of the different factors that can indicate if a woman is fertile or not. Also, every woman is different, so ultimately only you can be the judge of what's going on with your body. After you've been using the Fertility Awareness Method for a while, your ability to gauge when you are fertile or not will be MUCH better than any algorithm's :)

    So, particularly if you don't want to get pregnant, it's best to confirm your fertile days with the daily observation of the primary fertility signs. You can confirm when you're fertile by tracking your temperatures and cervical fluid each day, and applying the 4 rules of using the Fertility Awareness Method as birth control (https://kindara.zendesk.com/entries/22043400-The-4-rules-of-using-the-Fertility-Awareness-Method-as-birth-control-explained).

    So to answer your question, I don't think we currently have any plans to include a rules of FAM info in the app, however, if you're very confident that you fully understand the fertility awareness method and you still really really want the fertility prediction feature, you can change your 'goal' to 'Track my Period' in the Settings option of the app.  But if you choose to do this, PLEASE be fully aware that this feature is NOT to be used in any way to make decisions about avoiding pregnancy!

    If there's anything else I can help you with, please don't hesitate to let me know! Thanks again for writing us :)

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    nignacio84

    I just downloaded this app (android) and loaded all my data for the last 2 months that I have. Why did one of my temp dots turn green and there is a dotted line from the one before it to the one after it? It is also green.

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    Lauren

    Hi nignacio84, thanks for contacting us!  It sounds like what you're describing is a temperature that's been excluded from the temperature shift calculation.  Kindara will mark temperatures that are excluded from the temp shift algorithm as grayed out and the temperature line will pass over them and become dotted.  The reason for excluding the occasional temperature is that in order for the algorithm to find your temp shift, it sometimes needs to apply a Rule of Thumb to one of your temperatures (meaning it will be ignored from the calculation).  I hope that helps - let me know if you have any questions about this!

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    kourtnek

    I am new to the app. Should I be charting cervical fluids the same days I am charting my period?

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    Lauren

    Hi kourtnek, thanks for contacting us!  It's not necessary to chart your cervical fluid while you're menstruating.  The blood from your period would mask your cervical fluid anyway, so you can wait until you stop bleeding to start recording cervical fluid.  Let me know if you need anything else!

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    julesgobin

    The period prediction is saying my cycles are 21 days even though the data I've imputed in the last two months have been 28 day cycles. Also, the fertile window is showing up as the day I end my period. I deleted my data, logged out, uninstalled the app, and reinstalled it. Same problem after re-entering the data. Help!

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    mylyfe99

    Is the fertility window also a predictor of your ovulation date? If so, which part of the window would be closest to ovulation? I thought the star with sparkles meant I was ovulating but I experienced no temp shift so I am wondering if I am not ovulating this cycle.

    Thanks!

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    Lauren

    Hi jules, I'm so sorry about that!  It sounds like you may have found a bug - I'll do everything I can to get this sorted out for you.  Could you please email feedback@kindara with your message so I can take a closer look at the issue?  Thanks and I'm sorry for the inconvenience!

     

    Hi mylyfe, the star with the sparkles indicates the day you're most likely to ovulate. But the prediction feature is only a prediction and it may not be totally accurate - always trust the signs your body is giving you over what the app says, since you know your body better than any app :)  I hope this helps!

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    jo_micho008

    The ovulation date on my calendar is different than the one on my chart (calendar predicts day 18 and chart day 19). How is that possible?

    Thank you!

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